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The following WRAP is from our good friend Ken Daugherty. It is because of his computer expertise that our web site is up and running. If you like our site, you can thank him. If you don't like it, it's his fault.

KEN WROTE:

Hello Don,

CHILDREN......

To those of us who have children in our lives, whether they are our own, grandchildren, nieces and nephews, or students ... here is something to make you chuckle.

Whenever your children are out of control, you can take comfort from the thought that even God's omnipotence did not extend to His own children.

After creating heaven and earth, God created Adam and Eve. And the first thing he said was, "Don't."

"Don't what ?" Adam replied.

"Don't eat the forbidden fruit." God said.

"Forbidden fruit ? We have forbidden fruit ? Hey, Eve ... we have forbidden fruit !"

"No way !"

"Yes, way !"

"Do NOT eat the fruit !" said God.

"Why ?"

"Because I am your Father and I said so !" God replied, (wondering why he hadn't stopped creation after making the elephants).

A few minutes later, God saw His children having an apple break and was He ticked !

"Didn't I tell you not to eat the fruit ?" God, as our first parent, asked.

"Uh huh," Adam replied.

"Then why did you?" said the Father.

"I don't know," said Eve.

"She started it !" Adam said,

"Did not !"

"Did too !"

"DID NOT !"

Having had it with the two of them, God's punishment was that Adam and Eve should have children of their own. Thus, the pattern was set and it has never changed! But there is reassurance in this story. If you have persistently and lovingly tried to give children wisdom and they haven't taken it, don't be hard on yourself. If God had trouble raising children, what makes you think it would be a piece of cake for you ?

Advice for the day:

If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle:

"Take two Aspirin" and "Keep away from children."

A FEW ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ! ...

CHILDREN: You spend the first 2 years of their life teaching them to walk and talk. Then you spend the next 16 telling them to sit down and shut-up.

Grandchildren are God's reward for not killing your children.

Mothers of teens know why some animals eat their young.

Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have
said.

The main purpose of holding children's parties is to remind yourself that there are children more awful than your own.

We child-proofed our home 3 years ago and they're still getting in!

Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home

--
Ken Daugherty

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? WROTE:

WORDWON@cs.com lists for you "The 3 rigorous time-relation passages:"

Please study these in comparison and reply to be in our address book.

A. Matthew 24:29-31 with parallel and explanatory passages <

This is one of the only three passages I know that put a group of future prophecy events in some rigorous order. Here the rigor is in the opening phrase, IMMEDIATELY after the {Great} Tribulation." In that specific, tight time frame there are three groups of future events:

24:29: the end of physical creation,

24:30: the visible, physical Return of Christ, and

24:31: the Rapture.

B. Revelation 20

By comparing passage A with Revelation 20:1-3, 7-9, especially 9, we are obliged to understand that the three events in passage B come BEFORE those in A. [Physical Creation as we know it ends in A, verse 29. The Millennium in B must happen on this physical planet.]

In this comparison all Premillennialisms are eliminated and Postmillennialism is established.

C. 1 Corinthinans 15:20-26.

This reinforces the above. A strong exegesis with application may be requested. Dialogue welcome!

B’Ann Wrote,

When Don started this study about the "end-time," I challenged him quite strongly. My question was, "Why are you doing this? Is it to set a date? Is it to be overly concerned about the "end of the world" that preachers were talking about? Why are you doing this?" I finally had to just "go away" and leave him alone. Later, as the Millennium events began to arise on the world scene, we could see why we were to be concerned about the "end-time." Preachers and believers started crying, "The year two thousand is it!" "God is going to do something about this ol’ wicked world". DOWEKNOW was put up on the web to alert people to three things:

1) God never gave us a date for the "end-time" events, just a "watch time",

Matthew 25:13
"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh"

Mark 13:
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

2) Jesus did not even know when these "end-time" events would take place and

3) This worry was not our job on earth.

The Bible says that perfect love casts out fear and fear hath torment. ("There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love" I John 4:18.) If we are a true Christian, then we should not be "tormented" about this. Furthermore, Jesus said His burden was light. ("For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light" Matthew 11:30.). Now I submit to you that if one did know the "day and hour" of the start of "end-time" event, then, most certainly it would be too heavy a burden for any man to carry. The watch for every generation has been so simple: The Great Commission. This was Christ’s last words, the bottom line if you please.

We did not put our web site up for an endless pursuit of genealogy/times/seasons, but rather to comfort people. DOWEKNOW what the Scriptures really say? Most people do not know that the "end-time" was not our burden to carry. Our "burden" is light, i.e., to do the Great Commission. Jesus carried all the burdens to the cross with Him. We have not perceived this yet!!! We get up in the morning and say, "Jesus , what can I do for you today?"…Wrong!!! It should be, "Jesus, how can I follow the love and care of your Holy Spirit today?" There is a big difference in "working" for Jesus and "following" Jesus. We get so busy "working" that we enter into the burden and letter of the "law" and never even see the love and forgiveness message of "grace/unmerited favor."

I am not concern about pre-millennial, post-millennial or when the period called tribulation starts. I am concerned that the church "plows" consistently during each generation. If we do this we will not have to stand before the Lord and be ashamed of our own particular harvest. The only reason that I can think of to "observe the times" is to spur us on to the harvest since our "watch" is to do the Great Commission.

1 Corinthians 3:
8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Doesn't common sense dictate that if a farmer (remember, we are all field hands in the Lord's harvest) could truly see a terrible storm coming, then wouldn't he hasten out to the fields to gather what he could of the harvest into a safe place?

John 4
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

A good farmer would not sit on the front porch and rock, chat about the storms clouds gathering, jump in fear from the crash of thunder and lightning, listen to the threatening sounds of the tempest and let the crops be utterly destroyed in the fields. In fact, only a very, very lazy farmer would put off gathering the harvest until he sees a storm coming. There's little if any time left to harvest when the storm is upon us!!! We need to know the Scriptures, know that the Spiritual storm clouds are gathering, but only so that we can know/be warned that we had better get our harvest in…our harvest!!! There will be a final harvest/judgment of the earth, but this is not our concern. It is out of our hands; however, the yearly harvests we made while on earth will play a great part in who will or will not stand at the Great White Throne Judgment to hear their final condemnation. Every soul needs to see enough of Jesus' in his followers to cause them want to follow Him. Those that do will spend eternity with the Lord of Glory instead of in eternal torment with the devil and his fallen angels.

Church, we need to rightly divide the Scriptures:

II Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

1 Corinthians 2:
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Thanks for WRAPPING. I can see your concern; yet, I fear that the concern becomes a "date-setting search" event rather that a "call to harvest". Do you see where I’m coming from…Bless you!!!

DON WROTE:

If you want to see my ideas on the post-pre-mid-tribulation which sets my position on the pre- or post- millennial theories, go to the introduction of our book CLOCK OF THE AGES.

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