Question-Comment: Hi 
Did you die 
I haven't seen any action here on your WRAP in over a year

DON WROTE:
Hello whoever you are. No, I haven't died; but if you will check out our "MARCH thru MAY-2006-SPECIAL WRAP AROUND," you will see that I felt overwhelmed by the sin, deceit, and wickedness that I've seen in all of the most important entities that make up our United States. The last entity that I commented on was the Church. I'll bring that comment over to begin this WRAP.

So far, we've looked at several entities in our society that are sin-sick and on a course 180^o away from God; but if we will look again at our beginning Scripture, we will see that it is the Church that the Bible calls upon to repent if God is to heal our nation. And we should note that the Bible is not referring to the differing man-made church organizations, but the true Church: i.e., the individual believers whose bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost, the born again individuals who hear the voice of Christ and will not follow another. It is for this reason that I have been caught up in prayer and not answering your WRAP AROUNDS as per usual. I have been asking the Lord to help me humble myself before Him, and to examine my heart to see if there be any evil way in me, and to help me turn from anything unpleasing to Him. If you will join me in this prayer—who knows—perhaps God will see "at least ten righteous" in the U.S. and spare our great land!

The theme in our last WRAP AROUND was a warning that our nation was heading for divine judgment. We will resume our WRAP AROUND feature with the conviction that the UNITED STATES has already entered into that judgment and unless the Church will heed the following Scripture, our WRAPs from this day forward will reflect that conviction!

II Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Psalms 139:23-24
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if [there be any] wicked
way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

Maranatha,
Don

This good word comes to us from Pastor Gideon Mudenyo of Kenya, Africa.

PASTOR GIDEON WROTE:

January 22 - Live Like Jesus
"But [Christ Jesus] made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men." (Philippians 2:7) The truth of this verse hasn't
really dawned on most people. They mistakenly think that Jesus was able to work wonders,
to perform miracles, and to live above sin because He had divine powers that we don't have.
Thus, they have never really aspired to live like He lived.
"Oh my," they say with great humility, "I could never live like Jesus did. After all, He had
an advantage. He was God!"
They don't realize that when Jesus came to earth, He voluntarily gave up that advantage, living
His life here not as God but as a man. He had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability
to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit as recorded in Luke 3:22.
He worked wonders, not by His own power but by the power of the Father, saying, "The Father
that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works" (John 14:10). And when He prayed, He prayed not
as a divine One who had authority as God, but as a man who walked obediently with God. And,
as Hebrews 5:7 says, "His prayers were heard not because of His deity, but because of His
reverence toward God" (AMP).
Jesus, the divine Son of God, set aside the privileges and powers of deity for a time and lived
as a man on earth. Once you grasp that, it will absolutely thrill your soul! Why? Because it
means that you, as a reborn child of God, filled with the same Holy Spirit as Jesus was, have
the same opportunity to live as He lived on earth. In fact, that is exactly what He intends.
In John 17:18 He said to the Father, "Just as You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them
into the world." Jesus has sent you into the world to live as He lived. Through the new
birth, He's enabled you to exchange the sinful nature of Adam for the sinless nature of God.
He's given you the ability and the command to live above sin, to live in fellowship with the
Father, to preach the gospel, to heal the sick, to raise the dead, to cast out demons, and to
make disciples. Once you realize that, you'll throw off the shackles of doubt that have held
you back. You'll begin to live as Jesus meant for you to live--not as a sin-ridden son of fallen
man, but as a reborn child of the Most High God. Then those around you will actually begin to
see Jesus--in you.
(Scripture Study:1 John 3:1-8)
 

B'ANN WROTE:

We were never told to "imitate" Jesus but to follow His example. The one that tried to be a carbon copy of God's Son was Satan who turned out to be the ultimate example of arrogance and  pride. Jesus taught us to pray!!! Always he went apart and prayed for guidance. After he received his instructions by way of the Holy Spirit, he went out among the multitude and did the works of his Father. He did have an advantage over we mere mortals because He had been with the Father in the Trinity and He knew the power of prayer. We have difficulty with this because 1.) we don't take time to commune with God, 2.) we are living in an instant society with instant foods, cell phones, TV, etc. and we have so many distractions that it is almost impossible to pray for any length of time.   In addition, there are few denominations which teach that believers should wait upon the Lord for His answer. Most churches jump in and have committee meetings that run the financial part of the ministry. This spills over into control of the activities done by the church. God is not a part of most churches, which in a sense, makes them the same as a social club. We have some great civic clubs in the U.S. that promote the general welfare of the citizens, but the Body of Christ is neither a club or an organization. We are called to go into the highways and hedges and compel people to accept Christ as their Savior.

My two daughters and one of my sons are doing the praise and worship at a local fellowship. I told them that I had a concern. If we are "making love to Jesus" (excuse the boldness) then we will birth souls into the kingdom. So many of our new praise and worship songs are for the first person (I, self, me) and does not point the believer to a walk that cares about the souls of others. I am alarmed when there are no evident conversions within a group that claims the name of Christian. We have a divine calling which is to do exactly what this Scripture says:

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Matthew 22:9
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

Please note that in the Scriptures referring to the “marriage”, that this was an allegory that was used to prove a point. Not all the people that were invited to the wedding accepted the invitation, but they were extended an invitation. Not everyone that we witness to in our everyday encounters will accept Christ as their Savior, at least not visibly at that particular moment in time, but we must give them the invitation which will remain open as long as they are alive on this earth. God gives us this blessed promise:

Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.
2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Ecclesiastes 11:1
Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days.
Ecclesiastes 11:6
In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both [shall be] alike good.

Also, there is nothing wrong with a central meeting place for the local church. But if all the time and money of the members are used just for maintaining the building (their club house); then, God needs to shake them up and remind them of their first love. Yes, it is a witness to those round about if we do have a home that is neat and tidy, a sufficient home for our families' needs so that we do not go about begging and in shame. But it is my prayer that for the time and monies spent on your buildings, that there will be an equal amount spent on evangelizing the neighborhoods. Walk the walk and talk the talk and Jesus will be glorified.

In His Love,

B'Ann
 

PLease send me some information about your ministry and ministry material by postal mail I shall be highly thankful to you. We want your positive & quick reply as soon as possible for the Jesus Christ.
God is good all the Time.

God bless you and your Family + Church.
In Christ,
Evangelist Ishfaq Boby
 

Dear Brother Boby,

Although we know by faith that God uses our Web site to bless His children, still, it blesses and encourages us to hear that He is doing just that! 

Our hearts are there in Pakistan with you for God has laid the plight of Muslims everywhere upon our hearts—and not just the Muslim people, but people of all religions who "inherited" their religion and have never known the joy of the Lord or the "peace which passeth understanding" that is the gift to those who have accepted Christ Jesus as their Lord and Savior and been born-again by the precious Holy Spirit. 

As to our coming over to Pakistan, at present, the Lord is not leading us that way; but let me remind you that Jesus is already there and He does not need some "super saint" from the United States to arrive before He can meet needs.  In fact, as I read the Bible, the Church has never had any "super saints"—yet God has still managed to do His work through humble/obedient, average people who have been willing and faithful!  Consider Peter.  It is said that he was a "loud-mouth" and impulsive, and the Bible tells us of some of his failings—yet God used him mightily and is still using him every time someone reads the book of Acts or his two epistles: I and II Peter.  And what about the Apostle Paul who understood that in his flesh was no good thing and that the only righteousness that God recognizes in man is the righteousness which is imputed to us through faith in Christ Jesus and given to us as a fruit of the Holy Spirit. 

It is our prayer that God will raise up some men who have been faithful to study the Word and full of faith and courage who will enter into the harvest in your area. 

Don't forget to WRAP with us every so often and let us know what God is doing in your midst.

Maranatha,

Don

B'ANN  WROTE:

You speak of needing to train people to evangelize. Somewhere along the way, we must remember that a truly trained Christian would be the one that was as blessed as the Apostle Paul. At first, he could only give his testimony of how he was born again. This was a powerful experience that led him to press into this conversion that he had experienced. Because he was truly converted, he did not rest until he followed the example of Jesus, which was to take time to commune with God and get to know Him through prayer. The Holy Spirit directed his steps to the people that could help him through the next steps of his ministry.

For Don and I, the best way we found for witnessing out in the highways and hedges was not by a tent ministry, beautiful churches, radio or television broadcast, etc. We had some simple little tracts that said "Friend" on the outside. Inside, there were Scriptures that explained the plan of Salvation. (This was the way He used us, but every believer needs to seek their particular walk in the Lord.  He may lead you in a similar way--or totally different; but if you have the mind of the Lord, then you know that you have His anointing and blessing in your efforts.)  These were not a heavy cumbersome burden as we moved about, they were very inexpensive, but they were a point of contact between people and God. We passed these out everywhere we traveled, in restaurants, hotels, gas stations, college classrooms. Sometimes we left them in a particular place but most of the time we handed them to people that God designated. The work that these little tracts did is probably our most powerful witness but it did not occur in the organized church buildings. These people were not “churchy” people, but the downtrodden and hurting that needed kindness and healing. In the same way, we were moved by the Holy Spirit to start this website as a point of contact. It takes us places that we could never go in the physical because of financial and governmental restraints. But that is the whole point of this writing. We must not hinder the Cause of Christ by thinking we have to have a college degree, be a great wonderful learned speaker, or have a beautiful church, etc. These things could become a prestigious point of pride rather that an outpouring of the heart.

Everyone should start giving their testimony as soon as possible after their born again experience because it keeps their hope fresh and new in their hearts. As they grow and mature in Christ Jesus, they will move naturally into a deeper fellowship with God--but share the seed of personal testimony they must.

Don’t feel that we are impervious to the suffering and restrictions place upon you in countries controlled by other cultural beliefs. But since Christians are not a cultural belief, but a power energized by the Holy Spirit, we should accept no restrictions upon sharing the Word. This Kingdom is in the hearts of men and women everywhere; it is not in competition with other beliefs.  It is more powerful than a culture handed down from generation to generation, for being born again is an instants process of renewal. If we could only understand the Power that has been given us. We need to get back to the simplicity of the Scriptures and stop striving for great and wonderful visible ministries here on earth. Walk the Walk and Talk the Talk and God will provide for your needs in Christ Jesus. Claim the understanding and experience of this Scripture!!!

John 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Hello!

Our fellowship is what you see on the web.  Please feel free to download the music and messages. We were instructed to start this website so it could become a point of contact for God’s people everywhere. We need to realize how big God is, and try not to limit Him or ourselves. We named it “doweknow” (Do We Know?) to start each Christian searching for their place in Christ Jesus. We also wanted to challenge the “Christian Culture” that has sprung up as a way of life in the United States rather than a way of faith. We see nations that have different cultural beliefs, and we in the United States have, in the past, claimed to have a Christian Culture. But God speaks of “born again believers” that are energized by belief in Christ and led by the Holy Spirit. We are not to be a culture but rather a body of believers spread abroad in every nation. Every government on earth has some type of earthly culture that drives how they think and behave, but Christians are supposed to be members of a Spiritual Body that was bought and paid for by the Blood of Jesus. It would really benefit us to ask “doweknow” when approaching matters of God’s true purpose for mankind on earth. Please do not confuse the Christian Culture that is prevalent in the U.S. today with the true Body of Christ that is in all nations. We have been fortunate to have religious freedom which, until now, has allow the Christian Culture, the Churches, and the acceptance of Christianity to occur unhindered. But we need to know that the true Church, comprised of the born again believers, cannot be stopped by any government on earth for it is of Christ and the very gates of hell cannot prevail against it.  It is not an ideology, a creed, a slogan, a club, …but a spiritual body of born again believers. We believers are everywhere, or at least we should be everywhere. Faith is something that we carry in our Spirit, not in our minds, that is energized by the office of the Holy Spirit. If we ever lay hold of the reality of the power that is our in Christ Jesus, it will be a marvelous thing to see. We are not to take over governments, usurp authority, overthrow this regime or that regime. Jesus was never against things. He always was for a better way. Neither are we a doormat to be trodden under the feet of men. We should be careful about using our positions as Christian to destroy things; but, rather, to make things better around us.  Jesus had true humility, yet He claimed to be the Son of God. Think about that!  We can have true humility but claim to be a Child of God!!!

2 Corinthians 10:8
For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
Deuteronomy 28:13
And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do [them]:

Many have asked that we come and minister in their location. This would put our physical bodies at a point on the map with a radius of ten to twenty miles. But time is short and we can make contact all over the world with this website. It is imperative that we try to break through the barriers of the past and become true believers again. The True Church is united by the Holy Spirit. We will be going about our daily tasks and find that we are suddenly reminded to pray for people that have written to our website. Not just those, but others that might not have access to a website. We would love to visit you and see your faces, walk among your people, but time, money and effort would be better served by observing these Words from the Scriptures:

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Deuteronomy 28:13
And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do [them]:

We trust you to be an extension of our Faith. It is imperative that we be willing to find our place within the Body of Believers.

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