Samraj Wrote:

I greet you in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I have gone through your website - doweknow.com. Really it is very useful for the believers in Christ. I humbly request you if you could send the same book to me (Revelation explanation full set - the whole web site book)

It will be very useful for my ministry. Kindly let me know. I beg you to send this book to me. Hope you have received my previous two e-mails.

My address is...

Thanking you,

Yours in His name,

Samraj

Don Wrote:

Dear Samraj,

I am so glad that the Lord is blessing our efforts to serve His Church. This encourages us greatly. Forgive my tardiness in answering your WRAP AROUNDs, but ours is a busy schedule.

Yours is not the only request that we have had concerning a hardcopy of our books and studies, but as we've already explained in previous WRAPs, the wife and I have limited funds (and time), so we've chosen to invest them in our web site. We are open to publishing our books; but as of yet, the LORD has not made a way.

Please feel free to copy and use our books in any way that helps you and your ministry. We only ask that you offer the content in them as free to others as they have been offered to you.

Thanks for wrapping with us,

Yours in Christ,

Don and Ann Love

Question-Comment: ? What should a student of the Bible be aware of when dealing with "prophetic" biblical literature?????

Don Wrote:

There is so much! However, the first and most important ingredient in your study should be total reliance upon the Holy Spirit, the Giver of prophecy and the interpreter thereof. This is especially true as one surfs the web. There is so much nonsense and attempts to make money on the web in the name of prophecy that I've learned to "surf in the Spirit." It can save a lot of time and money, and prevent a lot of confusion. If you are interesting in any other of our ideas about prerequisites for the study of the Bible and its prophetic portions, go to our free on-line book THE CLOCK OF THE AGES.

Thanks for taking the time to WRAP with us.

Stephen Wrote:

Hello My name is Stephen

I was just reading your understanding of the two witnesses.

Please allow me to intrude a little and offer these thoughts, it is not two churches that are represented here. It is the main Two Houses of Israel Judah and Joseph. Gentiles who turn to God are grafted into these two trees so they become children of Israel and heirs to the promise through faith.

Don Wrote: You say that you think that the houses of Judah and Joseph will be the two witnesses of Revelation 11. I see where you are coming from, however, the Church was not grafted into Israel, but into Christ. Paul speaks of the Church being grafted in "among" the faithful of Israel in Romans 11:17. Let's look at that verse of Scripture in its context. We need to remember as we study Romans 11, Paul is addressing "bodies" of believers, not individuals.

Romans 11:
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

The key for interpreting verse 17 is found in verse 16. The "firstfruit" of verse 16 refers back to the offering of the firstfruits as per the Levitical laws. (See Leviticus 2 & 23.) When the Israelites brought the firstfruits of their increase to the Lord with a willing heart, then the "lump" (i.e., the nation) was reckoned to be holy by God. As to the "root" of verse 16, for those of Israel whose hearts were right towards God, Christ Jesus was their root and they were counted as righteous by our righteous God. However, whenever Israel was backslidden and putting her trust in the bramble bush (Satan), then the "root" of Israel was not holy, nor was the nation. Also, as I read the Scriptures, I see the "olive tree" to be representative of those of the Age of the Law and the Age of Promise with the faith of Father Abraham. If this is so, then the body of believers in the nation of Israel during the Age of the Law were grafted intoand considered to be of the olive tree while the nation overall was considered to be the fig tree. This can be compared to the N.T. Church wherein the believers that have been grafted into the olive tree are considered to be the kingdom of God while the Church overall is referred to as the kingdom of heaven. If my interpretation is correct, then those in the New Testament Church who are born again into the kingdom of God--those who make up the Body of Christ (in my writings, I refer to this segment of the church as the Church with a capital "C")--are grafted into this holy root by faith as was Father Abraham and all his descendants who had like-precious faith.

Stephen Wrote: As we are both aware soon there will be the time of Great Tribulation. All those who are Found Guilty of worshiping the Beast and his Image will be destroyed.

Don Wrote: This is true, but as I see it, this has nothing to do with the two witnesses, the olive trees and the lampstands at the end of the Kingdom Age. I contend that the "great tribulation" is just around the corner at the end of our age. (For my view on the tribulation period, go to our on-line book, THE CLOCK OF THE AGES, and read the introduction.)

Stephen Wrote: First let us establish the reason they are called "Witnesses" "Olive Trees" and " "Lampstands"

First the Witnesses.

The purpose of a witness in the Bible is to give testimony against those who break the Law.

Deut.:17: 6: At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Duet 19: 15: One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sins: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Matthew 18:16 "But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."

II Corinthians 13:1 This will be the third time I am coming to you. By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established.

As we can see it takes at least two witnesses to establish the truth of a matter and convict one of wrong doing. So theses two witnesses are there to establish the truth about who follows the Beast.

The Bible tells us who God's Two Witnesses are.

Isaiah 43:1 But now thus says the LORD, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine.......................9 Let all the nations gather together, and let the peoples assemble. Who among them can declare this, and show us the former things? Let them bring their witnesses to justify them, and let them hear and say, It is true. 10 "You are my witnesses," says the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me. So Israel which is made up of two main Houses the House of Jacob (Joseph) and the House of Judah we are told is God's Witnesses. They Witness to the fact that there is only one true God.

Don Wrote: To me, your thoughts about the two witnesses come close to the target. However, it appears to me that these "two witnesses" will not be there to witness to something as much as they will be there to witness against the ungodly in agreement with the Scriptures as you have noted. [It is interesting to note that at the time of the flood, although there were actually 8 in Noah's family, still, the Bible speaks of but one witness: Noah. "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb. 11:7).]

Stephen Wrote: Now what or who is a Olive Tree in the Bible?

Jeremiah 11: 16 The LORD once called you, 'A green olive tree, fair with goodly fruit'; but with the roar of a great tempest he will set fire to it, and its branches will be consumed.

Hosea14:I will be like the dew to Israel; he shall grow like the lily, and lengthen his roots like Lebanon. 6 His branches shall spread; his beauty shall be like an olive tree, and his fragrance like Lebanon.

Romans 11: 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, were grafted in their place to share the richness of the olive tree,

So here again we see that the Olive tree represents Israel's two Houses above Paul calls the Gentiles joining the Church Wild Olive Branches that will be grafted in to Israel, the Olive Tree.

Don Wrote: To my thinking, like divorce among the Hebrews, the division of Israel into two houses was tolerated only because of God's tremendous love for man and His awesome grace. I can't see Him honoring this split which was obviously due to sin and the influence of Satan by setting up the two fragments of Israel in such an important role as His final witnesses against Lucifer and those who have chosen to follow him.

Stephen Wrote: And now the Lampstands

Rev1:20 As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

The Greek word for church here was " the assembly of called out ones" which is what Israel was the called out ones. So a Lampstand means "called out ones". Called out of the Woman's false Religious system and Grafted into the Olive Tree.

So we can see that the Bible explains quite clearly who and what these symbols are.

The Two Witnesses are actually the 144,000 of the twelve tribes and all the Great multitude of Gentiles that are grafted in and are killed in the Great Tribulation. They are God's Witnesses to the Truth of the actions of all on the Earth who worship the Beast. The miracles these 144,000 perform are made possible by the Holy Spirit which they will posses as in days of old.

God will have his witnesses on Judgment day.

You are correct in saying it is not two men. These witnesses are actually millions if not billions of people.

Hope you found my uninvited understanding interesting !!!!!

Bye for now

Peace

Stephen

Don Wrote: If you have gone very deep into our site, you are aware of our position that much, if not most of the prophecies about the end of the Kingdom Age are closed to our generation. However, we are curious creatures. (You know what they say about the cat.) And it is our nature to speculate. But who's to say which speculation is the best? I did find your understanding interesting, especially the concept of the two witnesses. They say that there are only two things that we can be sure of: "death and taxes." If this be so, then we don't have to speculate as to rather we should or shouldn't witness to others about what we've found in Christ Jesus; for no one should go into eternity without Christ. From your WRAP, I suspect that you are very vocal about your Savior. If there ever was a day that the Church needed to witness to the salvation that we've found in Christ Jesus, TODAY IS THAT DAY. Pray for us that we will have the boldness and the wisdom to always speak up for our LORDand Savior both in action and word.

Maranatha,

Don

HELLO HOW ARE YOU DOING GOOD I HOPE?

IAM WRITTING FOR HELP FROM YOU. ME AND MY MOM IS STARTING A YOUTH GROUP
AND I AM A YOUTH MY SELF I AM LOOKING FOR STUDY THAT I CAN LOOK OVER THATS ALLREADY BEEN STUDIED THAT I CAN PRINT OUT OR SOMETHING ON THE END OF TIME AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST

WE NEED TO REACH OUT ALL HELP IS NEEDED

PLESE HELP US IN THIS

THANKS KENNY

DON WROTE:

Hello Kenny,

It sounds like you and your mother are trying to do a good thing. If you will go on into our web site (click on all the buttons that have a hand over them when you put your cursor over them), you will find that we have much already up on the web that you may find helpful. For sure, you need to click on the link to our Bible Study Aids and take advantage of the Bibles and the many helps that you'll find there.

Jesus said that if we would lift Him up, that He would draw all men unto Himself. Obviously, He needs to be lifted up more than He is at this present time. Our prayer is that God will show you how to best lift up His Son.

Hold us up always in your prayers.

Don & B'Ann Love

I am Tom M______ from DeSoto, TX. I just started teaching a Spanish class in my local independant baptist church. I found your internet ministry while studying the Word of God. I was searching for the word time and had in mind some of topics that you teach. Thank you for teaching the truth. I have not yet read everything but I am enjoyed what I read.

I just want to poin out a scriptural error under The REPROBATE OF THE LAST TIME. The verses are 2Timothy 3:5-7 and 3:8.

God Bless You and Your Ministry

Tom

DON WROTE:

I'm glad that you found our site and that it has ministered to you.

I'm not quiet sure where you found the typo error. If you E mail us again with more particulars, we will make the necessary changes.

Also, let me give you a prayer assignment. We have almost all of our study of Revelation up on the web. When that is up, we would like very much to make our site available to people of other languages, especially our Spanish speaking neighbors. If we had the money, we could just hire it done, but ours is a faith ministry. So, pray with us about this need. God is more than able...

May God bless your efforts as you hold up His Son,

Don

Lesley G_______ Wrote:

I am a Christian in England. Our House-group are continuing our studies in revelations, Can you tell me if the 7 seals, 7 Trumpets, 7 Bowls etc are all co-existent in time or whether they are one set following another etc.

It seems to me that some of them are co-exisitent in time, but I'm not sure.

The study books I have looked at don't make it clear

Thanks

Lesley

Don Wrote:

Hello Lesley,

GOOD QUESTION! I believe that you have made a good observation. It seems to me that there is a chronological order as to the beginning of the events, but it appears that most of the events are set in motion to run for a period of time. Consequently, there will be times when many, if not most of them, will run concurrently.

Hey, if you've been blessed by our site, how's about sharing it with a friend.

Thank you for taking time to WRAP with us.

Don & B'Ann Love

Are you in support of the group, Jews for Jesus, and their beliefs? Are their beliefs in line with the teachings in the Bible?

Thanks,

Elizabeth M________

Braselton, GA

DON WROTE:

Hello Elizabeth,

Thanks for WRAPPING with us. As to your questions, I am not familiar with the group, Jews for Jesus. Sounds like a good name, though.

Let me answer your question by giving you my approach to "testing the spirits."

There is no question but that we are to try the spirits, to see it that be of God--for we are commanded to do so.

I John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are
of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world

The advice that I'll give you is not mine, but I've adopted it. I heard it from an evangelist who had heard it from someone else--and this someone else had borrowed it from the revenue service. In short it is simply, do not concentrate on the counterfeit for there are too many of them with too many techniques. Simply know the real McCoy, and any thing that doesn't align with it is counterfeit.

So, let's make a list of what we know about the true believer.

• They believe that Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah that the nation Israel rejected), and that He was born of a virgin according to the Scriptures.
• They believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for the sin of the world, and their sin in particular.
• Because they have believed the above and have received Jesus as their Lord and Savior, they have been "born again" and made to be a new creature in Christ Jesus, and their lives will produce fruit that is evidence of that union. (At this point we must take care that we are "inspecting fruit" and not "judging a brother." The fruit we are to look for is not adherence to somebody's list of "touch not" and "taste not," but an attitude--are they teachable? are they concerned for others? are they forgiving? do they grieve when they err in the way? and do they hold their new found Savior and Friend in awe and want to share Him with others?--Oh, and above all, the fruit of the Spirit will be manifested in their lives [Gal. 5:22-23].)
• The things that they do in the name of Jesus will bring honor and glory to Him alone, not to themselves, not to another, not to a belief, not to a cause, not to a group, etc.

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