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Check out his latest find on the net.

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If Scripture now the class recites
It violates the Bill of Rights
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene
The law is specific, the law is precise
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend one with no faith at all
In silence alone we must meditate
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible
To quote the Good Book now makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong
We're taught that such "judgments" don't belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls
Study witchcraft, vampires, and totem poles
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed
No word of God must reach this crowd.

Amen.

DON WROTE:

I don't know if Baron Frankenstein is your real name or not, but I will take time to answer your WRAP for you have hit upon an important topic.

Let me begin my answer by addressing how the King James Version came to be. The following excerpt is taken from booklet three, chapter seven of our on-line book THE CLOCK OF THE AGES. (You can find the book by clicking on the CLOCK OF THE AGES button on our home page.)

SATAN'S PURPOSES AND DEVICES

Also, Church, it will help us to understand our Lord's warning, (i.e., "Take heed that no man deceive you" [Mt. 24:4]) if we understand Satan's methods and devices, as well as his purposes. At the top of Satan's goals is keeping the lost lost; and to manage this he knows he must somehow blind the lost to the glorious light of the Gospel. He also wants to keep the Church floundering in its call; and to do so, he knows he must keep it from realizing the awesome power and responsibility given to it by the Word and in the Word. Consequently, because there has never been a shortage of ungodly men at the devil's beck and call, there has never been a shortage of men ready to challenge the authenticity and the authority of the Word, or to manipulate its teachings for their own purposes…

SATAN'S ATTACK ON THE WORD OF GOD

Let's take a moment and consider Satan's attack on the Word; for it has not only proven to be his most effective means of deceiving man, but it was the method he used on his first successful deception. We're not told if Satan tried other temptations on Adam and Eve prior to that fatal deception in the garden; but we do know that when he presented the Words of God with his own manipulative slant, that he achieved his purpose. Read the account in Genesis. "Hath God said?" began the devil with his translation, which quickly became his own interpretation! Brethren, this should serve to alert us for since the age of the printing press, Satan has not only used the spoken word to attack and try to corrupt God's Word, but he has used the printed word as well. In fact, his fingerprints can be seen in some of the modern translations of the Bible, which are not translations at all, but interpretations. True, many of the newer versions of the Bible are excellent (every library should at least have a copy of the Amplified version and The Living Bible alongside the King James), but we need to understand that many of the newer versions are less than kosher and are hardly conducive to faith. Let's face it, the accuracy of even the respected versions must reflect the understanding of their interpreters who are human and prone to error. We don't have to go far into some of the newer translations before we find the Scriptures compromised. For example, the Genesis accounts of creation in some of the modern versions do not have the Spirit of God moving upon the face of the waters, but a wind. However, it's not a wind that moves upon a soul when it is born again, but the Spirit of God; and this is equally true regarding the birth of the earth. There are many such examples, but that is not our point here. Our point is, before we can have a clear understanding of the Word of God, we must read an unbiased, unaltered version; and this especially holds true when we are dealing with prophecy. In the English language the King James Version is unparalleled in the preservation of the Canon (the inspired, inerrant Scriptures), and the accuracy of its translation has been verified by the witness of the Spirit and the test of time. This is understandable when we consider that the reason for its formation was not theological but political. True, the king assembled the sharpest scholars and theologians of his day and ordered them to faithfully translate the oldest manuscripts of the Scriptures into English. But this was a sovereign move of God in that the king had to do so to stop the church squabbles that threatened to disrupt his kingdom—King James was not trying to assert some personal theological bias!

Let me finish up my part of this WRAP with a word of testimony. Not only has the King James Version withstood the test of time and made an impact upon the world as has no other version of the Bible, but it is my spiritual Mother. I know that there is enough of the Gospel (good news) of the salvation of God in Christ Jesus in most Bibles to save anyone who believes, but it was under the preaching of the King James Version that I was convicted and gloriously converted. Because of my born-again experience, I can readily "amen" the following Scripture.

I Peter 1:18-25
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, [see that ye] love one another with a pure heart fervently:
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
For all flesh [is] as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
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James 1:18;
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

There are other verses of Scripture that comes to bear on this issue.

I John 5:5-10
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar;
because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Rom 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

So, not only have I been born again by the Holy Spirit, but He also leads me in my daily walk, as much as I will allow. And He impresses upon me the importance of using the King James Version as my mainstay. I feel that this is not only because of its authenticity, but because to successfully use a concordance—which is an important tool for Bible study—it is necessary to have the words of only one version of the Bible in my heart. And again, I feel that the KING JAMES VERSION of the Bible is the one that the Lord would have me use.

If none of this makes any sense to you, and if you have no idea what the Bible is talking about when it says you must be born again, let me suggest that you go to the third chapter of John and not leave its Words until you have peace with God and yourself. You will find that most versions of the Bible have left this portion of the Bible intact so that God can honor them. And you can also know that He will honor them for He has promised that "The LORD [is] nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth" (Ps. 145:18); and that "...whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (Rom 10:13).

If you are interested in end time prophecy such as: Armageddon, Rebuilt Temple, Antichrist, The Great tribulation,, Mark of the Beast, you may like to read a controversial book 'Millennium Fever' by Shmuel Golding which has caused a stir from Jerusalem to the Bible Belt.

The book contains a rational chapter by chapter commentary on the Book of Revelation.

http://www.jibp.israel.net/ý

Don Wrote:

Thanks for taking time to WRAP with us. (I don’t understand your use of "ý." If it has a significance, you will have to let me know. For our visitors, to find the site mentioned in this WRAP, you will have to use the address without the ý.) (A note to our cyber visitors: I was just recently reviewing our WRAPs and noticed that Shmuel's web site is no longer on the Web.)

As I read your WRAP, another Jew of another day came to mind. We read of him in the 9th chapter of Acts.

Saul was still very angry with the Lord's disciples. He said he would kill them. He went to the high priest. He asked him for letters to take to the meeting places at Damascus. In this way he was given the power to catch any men or women disciples. He could tie them and bring them back to Jerusalem. He went on his way.

All at once, near the city of Damascus, a light from the sky shone around him. He fell to the ground and heard someone say, `Saul, Saul, why are you troubling me?'

Saul said, `Who are you, Lord?'

The Lord said, `I am Jesus. You are troubling me. But get up and go to the city. There you will be told what you must do.'

The men who had come with Saul stood there. They did not say a word. They heard a voice but did not see anyone. Saul got up off the ground. When he opened his eyes, he was blind. They took his hand and led him to Damascus.

For three days he could not see, and he did not eat or drink. A disciple named Ananias lived in Damascus. The Lord came to him in a vision and said. `Ananias.'

He replied, `Here I am, Lord.'

The Lord said, `Go into the street which is called Straight. At the house of Judas, ask for a man named Saul, from the city of Tarsus. He is there, talking with God. In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming to him. He has seen him put his hands on him so that he may see again.'

Then Ananias replied, `Lord, often I have heard of this man. He has brought much trouble to your people at Jerusalem. The chief priests have given him power in this city to put into prison all those who call on your name.'

The Lord said, `Go, I have chosen him to take my name to the people who are not Jews, to kings, and to the people of Israel also. I will show him how much he must suffer for my name's sake.'

Then Ananias went. He went into the house and put his hands on Saul. He said, `Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus came to you on the road while you were coming here. He has sent me to you so that you may see again, and that you may be filled with the Holy Spirit.'

At once some kind of skin which had covered Saul's eyes came off. He was able to see again from then on. He got up and was baptised. And when he had eaten food, he was strong again. Saul stayed for some days with the disciples at Damascus.

Right away he went to the Jewish meeting places and told the people that Jesus is the Son of God. All the people who heard him were surprised. They said, `This man killed the people who called on Jesus' name in Jerusalem. He came here to catch them and tie them and take them to the chief priests!' But Saul became stronger and stronger. He proved that Jesus is the Christ and made it so plain that the Jews at Damascus did not know what to say.

This is the account of how Saul, a devout Jew who later became the Apostle Paul that wrote a great part of the New Testament, was called of God to help build the Lord's Church as per His promise to Abraham and the Old Testament saints. It comes from Acts 9:1-22 of the Worldwide English version of the Bible.

I see from your web site that you feel it is your responsibility to oppose your Messiah and try to stamp out the influence of His Church. I perceive this from your web site which says:

The J.I.B.P (Center for refuting missionary teachings) is a registered educational organization with a four-fold commitment.
* To present rational answers to Christian fundamentalism.
* To repudiate bibliolatry and religious intolerance.
* To educate against anti-Semitism.
* To present a valuable alternative by working together (irregardless of race or creed), to create an atmosphere of peace and understanding, thus making this world a better one to live in.

The J.I.B.P reaches out to the Jewish community worldwide and offers its expertise in dealing with the problems caused by missionaries who seek to win Jewish souls.
Some may think that the threat is minimal and yet in Israel alone there are many who have embraced the missionary message. In America, the menace has misled thousands and now an overflow from this tide which seeks Aliyah to Israel. In Russia, the Christian missionary crusade has been given full throttle with the multimillion dollar backing of evangelizing Christians.

Since 1981, the J.I.B.P has trained many students and has developed a large network of highly trained counselors now working in several countries.

I find it unfortunate that you mention the New Testament believers in the same breath with those who practice "anti-Semitism." The Church of the Lord Jesus Christ is and has always been the truest friend that the Jews have had throughout the 2,000 years of their dispersion. (Even the horrible time of your holocaust bears this out.) Oh, I understand where you are coming from. Like Paul, you feel that you must stop the influence of the teachings of the followers of Christ; but like Paul, you have not put that which you have been taught to the test of truth. Let me remind you of the admonitions of Moses and your prophet Jeremiah.

II Chronicles 16:9
For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.

Jeremiah 24:7
And I will give them an heart to know me, that I [am] the LORD: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart…

Jer. 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Fortunately for the Apostle Paul, although he wasn't seeking God with all his heart, he was opposing the Church that his Messiah was building, thinking that he was serving God. Consequently, in mercy, God showed him the truth—that in reality, he was opposing the very One he wanted to serve. My prayer is that this is also your heart and that God will also show you truth.

Let me finish my response to your WRAP by quoting from the history of the New Testament Church.

Act 5:17-39
Then the high priest rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and were filled with indignation, And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison.
But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said, Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life. And when they heard [that], they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.
But when the officers came, and found them not in the prison, they returned, and told, Saying, The prison truly found we shut with all safety, and the keepers standing without before the doors: but when we had opened, we found no man within.
Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.
Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people.
Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.
And when they had brought them, they set [them] before the council: and the high priest asked them, Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. the God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are his witnesses of these things; and [so is] also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
When they heard [that], they were cut [to the heart], and took counsel to slay them.
Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, [even] as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

B'Ann Wrote:

Yes, I agree that we need some help. As I read the Bible, I do find that I cannot help you. If the writings about Sodom and Gomorrah are true, as propertied by the Bible, then I have to look at this Biblical writing and accept what it clearly outlines. The noise of Sodom came up to heaven, not a cry from any Christians. Evidently, nature was in such a discordant state that its awful, unnatural rhythm began to beat against God's ears and He sent the angels down to check out what was going on at this place called Sodom. The Scriptures do declare:

Gen 13:13
But the men of Sodom [were] wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

Gen 18:21
I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

Gen 19:5,7-9
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where [are] the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them...
And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as [is] good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
And they said, Stand back. And they said [again], This one [fellow] came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, [even] Lot, and came near to break the door.

We find in the writings in the Scriptures that the men of the city wanted to "know" (the word translated "know" has sexual connotations) the angels which evidently looked male. The men of the city refused the virgin daughters that were offered to appease them. The account goes on to say that the angels blinded them but they continued to try to tear down the door and get to the angels. A mighty strong sex drive!

Gen 19:11
And they smote the men that [were] at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

The angels of God could not change their minds, God could not change their minds, and I cannot. Perhaps I can't for the same reason that Abraham could not, nor Lot could not.

Gen 18:32-33
And he (Abraham) said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy [it] for ten's sake.
And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

I look around at the people I meet and I do not want them condemned or trampled as subhuman or perverted. I believe that within each person is something very great, a special gift, that most people never find for it takes the diligence of a miner panning for gold to attain it. I can see sacrificing a possibly brilliant future and using a sexual relationship to bear children. However, I cannot imagine sacrificing a future for just raw sex between men-men or women-women. You might say, "What do you mean sacrificing a future?" Check the statistics of surviving a homosexual relationship. It's almost like playing Russian Roulette. Women have died of childbirth in the past but never like the death rate from modern, promiscuous sexual encounters.

So, I say all that to say this. If I am wrong, I will certainly ask God to show me the correct way. If you are wrong, it is possible that you will may never see the need to repent if what the Scriptures say are true. What if you are wrong? What if the Holy Bible does not condone and uphold your way of life? I am reminded of the disciples at the Last Supper when Jesus said that someone at the table would betray him. One by one they began to say, "Is it I, Lord?" It went around the table with each one searching their own heart, not the hearts of the one sitting on the left or the right. This is the starting point if we are truly Christians; i.e., "Is it I Lord?" Can you say, "Is it I Lord?"

I absolutely promise you that I will ask, "Is it I, Lord?" However, it is difficult to embrace another interpretation of the Scriptures after being taught about perversion as a child. I also have to look at the fruit of what I was taught as a child. The teaching of one man and one woman marriage, with fidelity, would limit significantly the cases of syphilis, gonorrhea, numerous other sexually transmitted diseases, illegitimate babies, broken hearts, broken homes, huge medical expenses…. I challenge you to write about the benefits of your sexual preferences. It would seem to me, that nature itself is beginning to turn on society in the form of new sexually transmitted diseases of which AIDS will be just a start. Whoops! I'm sounding judgmental again. No, I'm not! I am just stating facts that are evident everyday in the news media.

Yes, we need help because if I read the Scriptures correctly, only God, Himself, can deal with the spirit of homosexuality/Sodomy. We mere humans can't seem to even cry out to God about it. The unnatural rhythm of nature will have to do the crying. God seems to have reserved this "keg of worms" for Himself.

Gen 19:12-13
And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides?; son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring [them] out of this place:
For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

Gen 19:17-18
And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

Gen 19:24-25
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Gen 19:28-29
And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

There is a natural rhythm to all of creation. The rivers murmur as they flow to the ocean, the oceans have such a pleasant sound, the winds move and blends with nature, growth has its own pattern to follow, there are sound of love as strong as the Song of Solomon and the cooing a mother makes to a new baby. When something occurs that goes against the normal flow of nature, the murmuring sound ceases, and the earth experiences the awful sounds of catastrophe whether it is natural or manmade. If the Scriptures are true, whatever occurred in Sodom was a discordant sound of nature and God could not abide its in his ears. Think upon these things.

Don Wrote:

When I first began studying the Bible I came across this passage of Scripture.

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

As a babe-in-Christ, these words struck fear in my heart—fear for those who have such a judgment put upon them and a reverent fear of God. I had just been converted from a life of sin and had experienced a powerful conversion; and now I was reading that God would use that same power to blind people and to give them up to a reprobate mind!

Because I had just be born again, I was full of zeal for my friends and family and I wanted everyone I met to be "saved." But now I was reading that there were some who were exempt from the grace of God. This bothered me and I gave myself to prayer and Bible study about the matter. I had already read where Christ was the Lamb of God Who took away the sin of the world when He become sin on the cross so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

II Cor. 5:21
For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

And I knew that there was one unforgivable sin, for I had already read Matthew12:31.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

However, having read the Scriptures about blasphemy against the Holy Ghost in its context, I soon had a handle on the concept. The people to whom this was addressed were the Jews that had to make the transition from the Age of the Law to the Age of Grace. To help them make the transition, the Holy Spirit had gone to great lengths to confirm to Abraham's seed that Christ Jesus was truly their Messiah. It was to these Jews who had steadfastly resisted the Holy Spirit and accused Jesus of being empowered by the devil that Jesus was talking. Down through the years as a pastor and minister, I have often been called upon to counsel new converts who were being harassed by the devil who was tormenting them by insisting that they had blasphemed the Holy Ghost and, as a consequence, were forever lost. We would read together the Scripture in its context and I would point out that these who had truly blasphemed the Holy Ghost had hardened their hearts toward God and weren't in the least concerned that they were guilty of blasphemy. Then we would consider that someone whose heart was so soft towards God that they would be concerned that they might have thus offended His Holy Spirit was hardly a blasphemer. Then we would look at I Timothy 1:13 where Paul referred to himself before his conversion, saying that he had been a blasphemer, but had received mercy because he had done it in ignorance (I Timothy 1:13). This seemed to pull the devil's teeth—at least concerning this issue.

But now, being called upon by my Lord to share my testimony with the lost, I had to think this thing through. If I knew someone was a homosexual, was I just wasting my time witnessing to them? I would be if God had given them up and He wouldn't honor my witness. For beginners, I knew that the Bible says that Jesus became sin for us; and that through Him, we can even be justified from things that those under the law could not be.

Act 13:38-39
Be it known unto you therefore, men [and] brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Also, I could find no where in the Bible where Jesus died for all sin—except homosexuality. After giving the matter much thought, I felt that I had found my answer. Just as with those who could not be forgiven for blaspheming the Holy Ghost, the answer for those guilty of sodomy was also a matter of the heart. The key terms that came to me were actors and acted upon. In other words, those who willfully choose homosexuality--knowing full well the issue and the consequences--are in stubborn rebellion, having hardened their hearts against the Word of God. These are actors. However, those who are duped into the practice are acted upon; and they can still open to the Gospel if they have not hardened their hearts against God and His Word. There was a time when those who have been "acted upon" were mainly acted upon by another person; but since the move of most of the world governments away from the Word of God toward ungodliness, children are being acted upon by liberal mores in our societies—being taught that perversion is but alternative lifestyles. These teachings have permeated even the most modern of nations so that today's children are inundated with a tolerance and even a promotion of homosexuality in almost every area of their lives. They hear it from the news media, the entertainment world, politicians, the educational system, etc. These children are being acted upon, yet they are a part of a field that is "white already unto harvest."

Which of these two categories you personally fit into, you will have to decide for yourself. The Bible says that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. If you are able to still fear the consequences of your act, then perhaps you have been acted upon. The test is simple. The Bible says that God commands all men everywhere to repent and to believe on the name of His Only Begotten Son. It also says that whosoever thus calls upon the name of the Lord shall be "saved." (Scripturally, that word "saved" includes, among other things, the forgiveness of the sins of perversion and the gift of the Holy Spirit to empower one to live godly lives.)

As to those in the rebellion of sodomy who support a church that has at its root the promotion of a sin that caused God to rain fire down on the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to their annihilation, I haven't prayed through all the factors.; But I can tell you up front--without any hesitation--it is a dangerous place in which to be.

Remember, we named our web site DOWEKNOW because we aware that we are still searching. Check out the Scriptures we have given you; and if you can find any place where we are at fault, let us know.

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